ACE / CrypticVPS

[Lifetalk]

Hi guys,

I'd like to keep this as simple as I can, and so I will. There's quite a few members on this board who are aware of what went down a couple months ago when ACE used to run/own CrypticVPS.

For those who don't know, ACE used to run CrypticVPS. At one point, shit happened and he ended up losing a lot of data, and eventually sold CrypticVPS to another member on here, SyFlys. During that phase, a lot of members claimed ACE had scammed them by not providing the service they had paid for and not refunding the amount against which he did not render the service he was supposed to. There were accusations, and for all we know, there may have been proof.

There were threads/reports, but a lot of them ended up being deleted. Technically, there was (possibly) proof that was never looked at or accounted for.

ACE was recently banned following the fiasco earlier. However, after a discussion in the staff area, that decision may be reversed. Unless, of course, people who claimed ACE to be a scammer back then can now come up with the relevant proof again.

If you happen to have been his customer and you were scammed by ACE, you absolutely must come up with the appropriate proof within the next 72 hours. If we have enough proof, ACE will remain banned. If, however, we have no or very little proof of him being guilty of scamming, he will be unbanned. The time frame, before us staff make a decision, is 72 hours from this thread. That's 3 full days; more than adequate time, I'd say.


P.S: Keep the drama out of this thread. If you're not comfortable with posting proof here, PM me with the necessary screenshots/logs, etc.

 

[SuicidalMedia]

Anyone? lol.

 

[Lifetalk]

Apparently, there was chaos when it all happened with everyone crying scam. Now, when asked, no one steps up.

I mentioned 72 hours, but I'll unban him within the next 24 hours if no one comes up with solid proof.

 

[mahjong]

Well

My pm to one of the former mod/admin, i don't remember. There is a picture about Ace talking with Sysflys about knowing that the data will be deleted and clients will loose everything.

PM START

Dear SpookyLady!

I am writing this message because i think that this is a really great forum, and i love to be here. Still, the thing that happening is kinda freaks me out.
As you already know enough about the stablelayer thing, that happens each and every day with hosts, that is not really bothering me.

My main problem, that it is clearly seen that Ace is misusing his moderator powers. Ever since he made crypticvps, he stickied his thread, and he deleted bad comments that was hurting his image, his business.
If he didn't do so, there won't be that much clients on his host, so less problem and angry forumer.
He even knew that after selling his vps-s, his clients will be deleted. He confessed it himself here: (read the last cube messages)
http://www.wjunction.com/showthread.php?t=57893&page=2

in case of deletion:
http://www.imageserve.info/img_store...884cf17685.jpg

As of the style he speaks, he does things, i have to think that he is just a kid.
I don't know if there is any kind of moral code for moderators, but i really believe that this great forum shouldn't have such staff.
The staff maybe shouldn't do any kind of business here, or limit their privileges in threads where are the reviews about their businesses.

I'm not asking you to degrade his role, or anything. Just at least say him that he made a mistake, and he should not behave like this. And maybe there should be more strict rules for moderators, so things will more likely less times go into this way.

Thanks for this great forum, and i'm sorry i have to bother you with such things... but while on most forums i'm just a silent reader, i was not able to close my eyes above this case.

Regards
Mahjong

PM END


Sisflys (the one who was told to buy ACE's hosting) hosting never came online, and everyone paid for ACE, so he should have paid back, but he was claiminjg that the host is not his anymore.

If you wanted a payback:
ACE's answer: I sold the host, not my problem anymore
Sysflis answer: I don't have money because all the clients paid the money to ACE.


So my only proof actually that image. But if you asking for proof after 3-4 months, you should not expect much. The choice is yours, but it was clearly not just another drama.

P.S.
+1 for Dj Mad, Ace was deleting and closing threads and comments/replies. That is the reason i wrote a PM to a mod, and that is the reason for the screenshot too. I knew that threads/comments can be deleted anytime, so not much use in posting them in the forum. On the picture ACE provided himself, Stablelayer wrote that he will delete all the customer data. Ace didn't even care, and posted that picture as proof for his innocence. Such a kid.

 

[Dj Mad]

Hi guys,

I'd like to keep this as simple as I can, and so I will. There's quite a few members on this board who are aware of what went down a couple months ago when ACE used to run/own CrypticVPS.

For those who don't know, ACE used to run CrypticVPS. At one point, shit happened and he ended up losing a lot of data, and eventually sold CrypticVPS to another member on here, SyFlys. During that phase, a lot of members claimed ACE had scammed them by not providing the service they had paid for and not refunding the amount against which he did not render the service he was supposed to. There were accusations, and for all we know, there may have been proof.

There were threads/reports, but a lot of them ended up being deleted. Technically, there was (possibly) proof that was never looked at or accounted for.

ACE was recently banned following the fiasco earlier. However, after a discussion in the staff area, that decision may be reversed. Unless, of course, people who claimed ACE to be a scammer back then can now come up with the relevant proof again.

If you happen to have been his customer and you were scammed by ACE, you absolutely must come up with the appropriate proof within the next 72 hours. If we have enough proof, ACE will remain banned. If, however, we have no or very little proof of him being guilty of scamming, he will be unbanned. The time frame, before us staff make a decision, is 72 hours from this thread. That's 3 full days; more than adequate time, I'd say.


P.S: Keep the drama out of this thread. If you're not comfortable with posting proof here, PM me with the necessary screenshots/logs, etc.

It would help if ace didnt delete all the topics?Check my replys in the other thread,that should be proof enough.I paid ace a day or two before he lost the data,but yet refused to refund me saying it wasnt his problem and he sold it to take the blame of himseld,pretty sneaky carry on.

 

[Jesse]

Provide links Dj

 

[Dj Mad]

provide links to threads that are deleted?????

i found some that are still there.

http://www.wjunction.com/showthread.php?t=58629

that one explains about refusing to refund money.

thats really all i can find,surprising considering all topics that were made?


here u can read about some of the stuff and about ace closing and delteing topics.

http://www.wjunction.com/showthread.php?t=57703&page=2



here are some other ppls replyies.

Dlow and Ace thinks that it is not their responsibility. Well, the paypal accounts where the funds went are yours. You even got money from stablelayer for your hosting. That money have to be enough to refund members. I was a client of crypticvps, and i opened a dispute, and will open a claim soon. I don't care who is the one who did this, who is responsible for it. I paid for someone, who never gave anything back, and i want to get the money from the same account i paid to.

 

[Lifetalk]

Read those threads and recalled some from back then. Continuing this discussion in the staff area. But if you guys have more proofs or screens, go on and post them.

 

[Ash]

Since it has been more than 24 hours and nobody has come up with solid proof I guess ACE must be unbanned now?

And I also heard that ace was rather scammed? The slyfys guy charged back the 300 bucks.

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PS: I am neutral in this matter. I am neither a friend nor a foe of ACE.

 

[Jesse]

Ash, the original post said PMs will be accepted. You don't see those (if any). Maybe they are going through them.

 

[Ash]

Ash, the original post said PMs will be accepted. You don't see those (if any). Maybe they are going through them.

Ok. The only thing we can do now is to wait for Lifetalk to update us.

 

[Jesse]

Exactly. He is not usually on at this time, so just sit tight.

 

[Glenn]

Ace is a fucking Noob, I believe he Didn't scam anyone intentionally,but situation & things around made him look as a scammer.

 

[Dj Mad]

It makes things harder when he was a mod and able to delete the topics,easy way to hide the truth.

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Ace is a fucking Noob, I believe he Didn't scam anyone intentionally,but situation & things around made him look as a scammer.

I dont think he did either but he scam people so thats pretty much it.

 

[Lifetalk]

Since it has been more than 24 hours and nobody has come up with solid proof I guess ACE must be unbanned now?

And I also heard that ace was rather scammed? The slyfys guy charged back the 300 bucks.

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PS: I am neutral in this matter. I am neither a friend nor a foe of ACE.

What does that screenshot prove?

And I've been talking to the other staff; so far we're all bending towards letting him stay banned.

The reason SyFlys charged back ACE was because ACE never handed over the domain. He only gave SyFlys modification rights, and that's a violation of the sales policy.

SyFlys also charged back because when ACE sold him the company, SyFlys had no idea how messed up CVPS was. How every customer wanted a refund because of ACE's incompetence in effectively managing the company. The details are fuzzy, and more so because ACE deleted a lot of threads/posts complaining about him and CVPS.

That and the fact that one of the screenshots in this thread show him agreeing to delete all existing threads of CVPS for a fresh start are enough to hold him liable. If he wasn't guilty, he had no reason to delete threads/posts. But he did - which not only shows how unprofessional he was in handling the entire situation, but also how unethical his actions were.

Having said that, the entire issue is still pending a final decision.


P.S: Nope, I've got no pms from anyone about anything regarding this matter.

 

[SuicidalMedia]

ACE is a young fella, it sucks that he tried to earn money on this way since it was pretty obvious he would fail, as all youngsters fail at such things. Some fail when it comes to the money, some when it comes to the management. But in the end, they all fail.

And what they do with it is that they ruin their reputation on the Internet forever. Of course, they can get a new username, but their real name will always be associated with that company, and one important thing: Google never forgets.

Stuff about them and their companies will be there forever. ACE had a chance to be a normal fella, but he fucked it up. I know that most of you think I hate ACE, but honestly I don't. I like to joke a lot with him, and this opinion isn't based on my friendship with him.

If he refunds everyone his ban will be lifted.

 

[Jesse]

I stand by this too. ACE seems like a good guy, but young and tried to make a quick buck on the net because hosting is "sooo easy to do it with (my quotes)." If he refunds everyone, and promises never (required) to get back into it again, then, he gets my unban vote.

 

[mahjong]

hmm

I understand that you like him. The problem is clearly not in the hosting company, but in the way how he tried to cover the failure by misusing his moderator powers, it was simply unethical. You say he is a youngster? Then he should not moderate a forum which has a part oriented at making business.

You should unban him, and let him stay as a member, but for moderator maybe there are better suited people on this forum. (i'm rarely here, so i'm guessing only, but on a popular forum like this i think there are always a few "mod-applicant-buddy", or am i wrong?)

I hope you will decide wisely.

 

[ShareShiz]

i dont think he scammed really. but hes been annoying as fuck recently.. i say leave him ban.

 

[Dj Mad]

I understand that you like him. The problem is clearly not in the hosting company, but in the way how he tried to cover the failure by misusing his moderator powers, it was simply unethical. You say he is a youngster? Then he should not moderate a forum which has a part oriented at making business.

You should unban him, and let him stay as a member, but for moderator maybe there are better suited people on this forum. (i'm rarely here, so i'm guessing only, but on a popular forum like this i think there are always a few "mod-applicant-buddy", or am i wrong?)

I hope you will decide wisely.

Few months late?